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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. asilvering (talk) 04:03, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Wilson (missionary)

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This article looks at first glance very well referenced, but looking more closely, I fear there are some major problems.

  • Hargrove 1809" doesn't seem to mention Charles Wilson?[1]
  • Sibree 1923 is a publication by the "London Missionary Society", so not an independent source
  • Davies 1808 and Davies 1810 are "'publications" from the "Records of the London Missionary Society" and not even really published, it is a microfilmed manuscript
  • Wharton & Im Thurn 1925 is this source which has one primary mention of Charles Wilson as a co-signatory of a letter
  • "London Missionary Society 1818a" is obviously a publication from the LMS again

So nothing in the article is actually based on reliable, independent sources about Charles Wilson, which indicates the lack of notability for this missionary (and the text gives no indication why he would be considered notable either). Fram (talk) 10:47, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Religion, England, and Oceania. Fram (talk) 10:47, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lovett's 1899 History of the London Missionary Society 1795–1895 has (on p.176) Charles Wilson captured on the "Duff" before going out again on the "Royal Admiral" in 1801. So that's how the Hargrove source, an account of the "Duff" voyage, gets joined in. For a fact-poor obituary of Wilson (which outright tells us that it isn't going to tell us anything about the period between 1801 and this person retiring in 1842 and dying in 1857) that however also joins the dots for the "Duff", see the July 1858 Missionary Chronicle, p. 453. There's another obituary in the 1858-09-24 The Friend (v.8 no.9 p.65) which tells is that this person's work "extended over a period of near sixty years", and says not one thing about those 56 years, also stopping the facts at 1801.

    That said, perhaps we could have left the article for more than 30 minutes of writing to see how the other 26 sources were going to pan out. Uncle G (talk) 11:36, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Judging from other articles like this one, there was little inclination to keep on working on the article. Many of these other sources were from the LMS as well anyway, and other ones don't really have much on Charles Wilson either (e.g. [chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/a6a00647-248f-40a2-beed-87e632163f33/content this one]). The two sources you mention aren't independent either, of course. Fram (talk) 11:47, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Fram, I'll be brief because I have other fish to fry: don't forget to take your pills! Duponnerie (talk) 20:15, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Fram, I think you are a great idiot. Don't be angry—tomorrow, April 1st, is approaching! You won’t be able to erase the life of this missionary, who labored for 56 years in the Pacific, with just a banner. It does not seem that he was an alien or that his life was empty. Instead of imposing your imperialism, you should work to make the article more credible by adding sources. I found this on the internet to put an end to this masquerade because I noticed that you were in command of an entire squadron of idiots. Don't be mad—April 1st is coming soon! Here is the source:https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/SAMREP18571001.2.6
To conclude, don't forget to take your pills and share them with your friends. Have a great day— the more, the merrier! Duponnerie (talk) 00:38, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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