Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/SimpsonsFan08 (2nd)
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- Suspected sockpuppeteer
SimpsonsFan08 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Suspected sockpuppets
SimsFan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Report submission by
Enigma message 22:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Evidence
As you can see by the title, this user has abusively used sockpuppets in the past. SimpsonsFan08 was blocked indefinitely on April 27. Soon after the last unblock request was denied on April 27, the account SimsFan was created. The two users have edited similar pages, and have similar editing styles, not to mention the obvious name similarity. Both edited Doctor Who articles and templates. See also their involvement in Wikiproject Sims. Note how many of the members are indefinitely blocked. Both users liked to welcome users. There's a ton more evidence, too, if necessary.
To expand upon what Enigmaman said above, firstly both SimsFan and SimpsonsFan08 have edit-warred at Template:Doctor_Who_(series_4). These are the edits by SimsFan/SimpsonsFan08 at the template:
- At 19:25, 11 May 2008 SimsFan (removed Voyage of the Damned. Check at http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2007/index.shtml. It is listed as a series 3 episodes. See Hidden Comment)
- At 14:18, 10 April 2008 SimpsonsFan08 (removed voyage of the damned, series 1: xmas inv. series 2: runaway bride series 3:VotD It's Not Series 4)
- At 16:24, 7 April 2008 SimpsonsFan08 took out Voyage of the Damned, 1. it's a xmas special. 2. it's series 3)
These edits involved exactly the same content, and were reverted by more knowledgeable users. Another page edited by both users is User talk:Dendodge:
- At 19:53, 24 April 2008, SimpsonsFan08 awarded Dendodge a barnstar for his work at the help desk. [1]
- An 12:41, 18 May 2008 SimsFan awarded Dendodge a barnstar for his work at the help desk. [2]
With regards to behaviour, SimsFan appeared very advanced as a "new" user. After less than 24 hours, he volunteers at the help desk.[3] Indeed he has worked at the help desk several times since joining; an editing venue which SimpsonsFan08 regularly used before his indefinite block. Enigmaman has mentioned the similarity in name and writing style - also SimsFan's user page[4] design is almost exactly the same as SimpsonsFan08's user page[5]. Both user pages have the notice and link "(For [SimpsonsFan08/SimsFan] only: Change Status Here)". On SimpsonsFan08's user page he has a userbox saying: "This user owns one or more dogs." On SimsFan's user page there is an image of a dog that he claims to own. The writing style of SimsFan and SimpsonsFan08 is very similar, over the course of reading the communications that each editor has sent, a link can be made - both use similar speech and grammar. Also, both SimsFan and the SimpsonsFan08 sockpuppet, User:MrWP, have both pretended to be clueless newbies when they joined. MrWP's first edit was:I'm new. I don't even know what this page is. Anyway, how do you do anything. How do I create an article? Really, I don't understand. On SimsFan's user page he says about Wikipedia: "I didn't even known you could edit." which was merely a façade, as he has edited templates, mainspace and Wikipedia space since joining. SimsFan also created a template within a day of joining,[6] very rare for a new user. Also, SimpsonsFan08 requested an editor review at WP:ER which was deleted at 19:21, 27 April 2008. Just over a week later, while still a newcomer, SimsFan created an editor review. Ironically, SimsFan also edited Wikipedia:Sock puppetry on 15:32, 4 May [7] and seems well acquainted with the policy on sockpuppets and alternate accounts for a new editor. And call me bad-faith assuming, but I find that SimsFan is trying to ingratiate himself with the admin who blocked his suspected sockpuppeteer.[8] I also note the comment below on this page by SimsFan: "Doctor Who and the Sims are popular things in my shared network". The same shared network which SimpsonsFan08 uses? EJF (talk) 14:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- If more evidence is needed to be added to the above I can provide some from about 1300 UTC onward tomorrow. Here is just one example of the alleged sockmaster and puppet edit-warring at a template [9] EJF (talk) 22:33, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Evidence added. EJF (talk) 14:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Notified the blocking admin. Enigma message 22:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Doctor Who and the Sims are popular things in my shared network. The Sims 2 is preinstalled on them for users, like me. I am not a WP:SOCK. The reason I came to Wikipedia is because some of my friends are coming. For example, Karate-master is one of my friends, and I welcomed him. SimsFanTalk • Centre of Ops • Sign and Get Award 06:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- If you see this page, there are many "fan" users. SimsFanTalk • Centre of Ops • Sign and Get Award 07:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- You can blatently see SimpsonsFan08 was operating SimpsonsFan2008. Just because I have fan in my name, like many others do, doesn't mean i'm a sock. SimsFanTalk • Centre of Ops • Sign and Get Award 07:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- If you see this page, there are many "fan" users. SimsFanTalk • Centre of Ops • Sign and Get Award 07:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Now that this sock was outed, I suppose we sit back and wait for the next sock... Enigma message 17:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Conclusions
Indef'd. Very convincing. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]